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Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:32 pm
by Marklauten
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So church using graphical interfaces is fine but I can't use graphical interface to tell me if trees exist?

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:37 pm
by Patel
Marklauten wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:32 pm https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

So church using graphical interfaces is fine but I can't use graphical interface to tell me if trees exist?
The Indian Society of Tree Science can confirm trees exist.

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:45 pm
by Jayden
1 simple click of a random would have avoided all of this

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:50 pm
by Church
I just... draw lines on my screen Mark. That's it, there's nothing special about it. You're writing a piece of software to directly interface with the game in real time in order to provide you with the ability to play it with less work overall.

I know that you're having difficulty defining things that are 1:1, but this ain't it chief.

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pm
by Marklauten
Church wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:50 pm I just... draw lines on my screen Mark. That's it, there's nothing special about it. You're writing a piece of software to directly interface with the game in real time in order to provide you with the ability to play it with less work overall.

I know that you're having difficulty defining things that are 1:1, but this ain't it chief.
My software does not interface with the game at all. How many times do I have to say that? Yes my hotkeys in the end effect the game. My add-ons that detect whether tree's exist, or to tell me if I am afk at all do not affect the game at all. Like 0% changes the client, game, inputs or outputs. The only thing they provide is a tool so I can also play the game with my ears. Its like hearing the thing chop. If no chopping noise you probs should click the tree again right? But it wouldnt matter if there was noise or not? My interface is the same. Instead of drawing lines I play music. @church

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm
by Marklauten
Marklauten wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pm
Church wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:50 pm I just... draw lines on my screen Mark. That's it, there's nothing special about it. You're writing a piece of software to directly interface with the game in real time in order to provide you with the ability to play it with less work overall.

I know that you're having difficulty defining things that are 1:1, but this ain't it chief.
My software does not interface with the game at all. How many times do I have to say that? Yes my hotkeys in the end effect the game. My add-ons that detect whether tree's exist, or to tell me if I am afk at all do not affect the game at all. Like 0% changes the client, game, inputs or outputs. The only thing they provide is a tool so I can also play the game with my ears. Its like hearing the thing chop. If no chopping noise you probs should click the tree again right? But it wouldnt matter if there was noise or not? My interface is the same. Instead of drawing lines I play music. @church
Either you guys are having trouble understanding what my program actually does, or you are intentionally trying to prove me wrong. Graphical interfaces do not change the game. MY PROGRAM DOES NOT AFFECT THE CLIENT AT ALL!!!!!!

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by Rapsey
Marklauten wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm Either you guys are having trouble understanding what my program actually does, or you are intentionally trying to prove me wrong. Graphical interfaces do not change the game. MY PROGRAM DOES NOT AFFECT THE CLIENT AT ALL!!!!!!
This is true, except for reading information from the client so it knows where to put your mouse. Which also happens to be the only client interfacing a bot program does.

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:07 pm
by Will be ok2
Marklauten wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pm
Church wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:50 pm I just... draw lines on my screen Mark. That's it, there's nothing special about it. You're writing a piece of software to directly interface with the game in real time in order to provide you with the ability to play it with less work overall.

I know that you're having difficulty defining things that are 1:1, but this ain't it chief.
My software does not interface with the game at all. How many times do I have to say that? Yes my hotkeys in the end effect the game. My add-ons that detect whether tree's exist, or to tell me if I am afk at all do not affect the game at all. Like 0% changes the client, game, inputs or outputs. The only thing they provide is a tool so I can also play the game with my ears. Its like hearing the thing chop. If no chopping noise you probs should click the tree again right? But it wouldnt matter if there was noise or not? My interface is the same. Instead of drawing lines I play music. @church
Hmm... after watching your YouTube video i came to the conclusion you should wear a helmet out in public for your own safety.

You admitted to being able to play PKH while you have YouTube as a full screen, if there is nothing wrong with that in your opinion, then your opinion should be irrelevant...

Moving your mouse left to right is actually potentially thousands of actions by moving it (x) pixels over. It’s not a single click action and it shouldn’t be thought of as such.

Also your whole “I used an auto clicker before who cares” well the owners... along with myself and everyone else who had to do the skilling previously without cheating to obtain experience..

Final conclusion: If you’re that unhappy with the server, the rules, the staff, etc. Maybe don’t play. You’re overall attitude twords staff and the VERY CLEAR rules is quite horrendous and disgusting. Pkh Takeover is such an amazing mod and is such because he ensures everyone is on a level playing field, he takes actions and precautions. Him afking at skilling or random checking you is apart of the obligations of being a mod to ensure people are not cheating. Hopefully you can give your head a shake and realize that people (and staff) aren’t out to get you specifically that they’re here to ensure fairness and rules are being followed.

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:09 pm
by Patel
I recently found out that flat-earthers don't believe in trees: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... rs/499322/
Marklauten wrote: So church using graphical interfaces is fine but I can't use graphical interface to tell me if trees exist?
Marklauten wrote: Yes my add0on tells me if there are trees
Marklauten wrote: Tree or no tree
Marklauten wrote: how many trees are in sight
Marklauten wrote: My add-ons that detect whether tree's exist
Marklauten wrote: search for a tree
Marklauten wrote: progam looks --> tree there? No
Perhaps this is the source of confusion? Mark, I swear, trees are real. You don't need a program to confirm that

Re: Third-party software + Addons

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:31 pm
by Marklauten
Rapsey wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:05 pm
Marklauten wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm Either you guys are having trouble understanding what my program actually does, or you are intentionally trying to prove me wrong. Graphical interfaces do not change the game. MY PROGRAM DOES NOT AFFECT THE CLIENT AT ALL!!!!!!
This is true, except for reading information from the client so it knows where to put your mouse. Which also happens to be the only client interfacing a bot program does.
Will all do respect rapshey. I have said this many time. When my program is search for a tree this is what happens.

Progam looks --> three there? Yes ---> nothing happens
progam looks --> tree there? No ---> blocks all user input (prevents misclicks)

SEPERATELY!

program looks --> xp there(still chopping) Yes --> nothing happens
program looks --> no xp? --> DINGGGGGGG (lets me know im afk)

SEPERATELY!

when i hear ding this is what I do. (i will only explain movement. since that is what everyone is concerned with)

button X (moves mouse) Press button x --> Moves to 1,1 (x,y)

Button X only works when there is a tree there. BUT BUTTON X GETS 0 information from the client. Think of the add-on like an on off switch.

Are there trees? lets me use my keyboard.
No trees? Not allowed to use keyboard.

Movement is based upon the same 1,1 or 2,2. The only time it doesnt work is when my add-on turns off my keyboard.

AGAIN my movement is the same every time. The add-on is just allowing me to use my keyboard or on. WHICH DOESNT AFFECT CLIENT AT ALL. They do not interface with one another. There is no shared data between the two. They do no rely on each other. IF THAT WAS THE CASE: Then that would be a bot. More than one action per input.