PkHonor

Raj wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 3:03 am @Tom061202 to be clear, he can’t just freely update the server, Niels and I review his code quite closely before it goes out. That’s true even of a dev like Brant; only Niels and I and the owners can actually deploy updates at will. My plan is to make a list of the changes, clearly list them, and poll/discuss them in a more clear and organized format before release so I can be sure the community wants the changes

I understand. Thank you for the precision and sorry if I seemed quite alarmed, it's because I was. Everything I said was meant to be constructive as well.

Tom061202 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 3:52 am

Raj wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 3:03 am @Tom061202 to be clear, he can’t just freely update the server, Niels and I review his code quite closely before it goes out. That’s true even of a dev like Brant; only Niels and I and the owners can actually deploy updates at will. My plan is to make a list of the changes, clearly list them, and poll/discuss them in a more clear and organized format before release so I can be sure the community wants the changes

I understand. Thank you for the precision and sorry if I seemed quite alarmed, it's because I was. Everything I said was meant to be constructive as well.

I also apologies for not been clearer enough in my posts so it was harder for you to understand. Like I said im very new to this and I want to help however this forum stuff is new to me ill need time to get use to it. And like Ive said a few times for future posts regarding anyfeed back ill make sure im more clear on things.
Thanks

Ktm drip wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 3:05 am I think your just breaking balls at this point. On what green earth is me doing hard mode tob/ clue rewards and the well going against what was asked for? Im on the one hand asked to work on community upvoted things I do that and your breaking my balls because I worked on things and then asked for any improvements to things that were already suggested? Like ive said a million times the other stuff were things I did for the sake of doing to get use to the code and find where things were and get familiar. Again just because I have access to code it means jack shit. I can create a fken pikachu shooting minnions guns IT DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL EVER TOUCH THE GAME.
Also whats so custom about a scroll that would give xp for voting? Or another custom whip? Your making out like im fken Benjamin netanyahu and im going turn this into fken dreamscape or something.

Hardmodetob viewtopic.php?p=775124#p775124
Clue rewards viewtopic.php?f=134&t=88109
the well viewtopic.php?f=134&t=88431

Explain to me what ive done so different to those threads.

Edit: I even put on the poll mind you it wasnt the best i'll grant that I even asked for feedback I said im aware people wouldnt like some of the stuff thats fine I also asked for input on what would you want changing with those things. Fuck me making me feel like im isreal fs

I think you're mising the point... yet again. I never said there's anything wrong with HMT, the well or clue rewards as base ideas. If you read my first reply to your thread correctly, I'm more worried about a new custom whips and completely new custom weapons that will probably be rendered useless once we get more straight up OSRS content like voidwaker amongst other things. It's the fact that you're already randomly throwing around 100 things YOU want to implement rather than letting the community figure that out. Btw, the for your scrolls I said I'm all for them if they're temporary timed boost and not just permanent hence making the game easier and easier permanently. You can't be clear and precise when you type, nor can you read...

Working on the base of things like HMT, The well, Clue rewards, Updating the stores, etc. is a GOOD initiative and I encourage you to do so as we DO need people who want to come up with new content. But I'm simply trying to get my point across that the details of these updates have to be brought up by the community in an organic manner in order for the update to be successful. You can bring a base idea to the attention of the community, but you have to ask them how they think that idea could come to life in a balanced manner to help BUILD that content. Just feeding us how YOU think it should be done is not progressive. We then have to UNBUILD things that don't work in the details YOU've suggested rather than moving slowly forward TOGETHER and agreeing on how everything will... It's quite a bit more progressive and methodical that way....

As soon as you don't, pure chaos ensues because you push stuff the whole community might not agree with and we got to work double to unbuild what doesn't work and find new ways to implement the update instead of just building the details together as a community...

If updates are suggested in the manner that you used to push them and they end up being implemented with pre-decided rigid ideas people can reject, the content of the game and it's essence will eventually be dead and buried 6ft under.

Do you get that? Isn't that common sense?

Working with the community from the ground up (from the basic idea rather than already feeding semi-rigid deatils with relatively closed mind) is primordial for the well being of a small community game like PkHonor...!

Stop thinking I'm thinking those update base ideas are shit, I never said any of that. I said I agree with most of the base stuff, just not all the extra shit on top if it changes the essence and integrity of the game...

Tom061202 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 4:17 am

Ktm drip wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 3:05 am I think your just breaking balls at this point. On what green earth is me doing hard mode tob/ clue rewards and the well going against what was asked for? Im on the one hand asked to work on community upvoted things I do that and your breaking my balls because I worked on things and then asked for any improvements to things that were already suggested? Like ive said a million times the other stuff were things I did for the sake of doing to get use to the code and find where things were and get familiar. Again just because I have access to code it means jack shit. I can create a fken pikachu shooting minnions guns IT DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL EVER TOUCH THE GAME.
Also whats so custom about a scroll that would give xp for voting? Or another custom whip? Your making out like im fken Benjamin netanyahu and im going turn this into fken dreamscape or something.

Hardmodetob viewtopic.php?p=775124#p775124
Clue rewards viewtopic.php?f=134&t=88109
the well viewtopic.php?f=134&t=88431

Explain to me what ive done so different to those threads.

Edit: I even put on the poll mind you it wasnt the best i'll grant that I even asked for feedback I said im aware people wouldnt like some of the stuff thats fine I also asked for input on what would you want changing with those things. Fuck me making me feel like im isreal fs

I think you're mising the point... yet again. I'm never said there's anything wrong with HMT, the well or clue rewards. If you read my first message correctly, I'm more worried about a new custom whips and completely new custom weapons that will probably be rendered useless once we get more straight up OSRS content like voidwaker amongst other things. It's the fact that you're already randomly throwing around 100 things YOU want to implement rather than letting the community figure that out. Btw, the for your scrolls I said I'm all for them if they're temporary timed boost and not just permanent hence making the game easier and easier permanently. You can't be clear and precise when you type, nor can you read...

Working on the base of things like HMT, The well, Clue rewards, Updating the stores, etc. is a GOOD initiative and I encourage you to do so as we DO need people who want to come up with new content. But I'm simply trying to get my point across that the details of these updates have to be brought up by the community in an organic manner in order for the update to be successful. You can bring a base idea to the attention of the community, but you have to ask them how they think that idea could come to life in a balanced manner to help BUILD that content. Just feeding us how YOU think it should be done is not progressive. We then have to UNBUILD things that don't work in the details YOU've suggested rather than moving slowly forward TOGETHER and agreeing on how everything will... It's quite a bit more progressive and methodical that way....

As soon as you don't, pure chaos ensues because you push stuff the whole community might not agree with and the content of the game and it's essence will eventually be dead and buried 6ft under.

Do you get that? Isn't that common sense?

Working with the community from the ground up (from the basic idea rather than already feeding semi-rigid deatils with relatively closed mind) is primordial for the well being of a small community game like PkHonor...!

Stop thinking I'm thinking those update base ideas are shit, I never said any of that. I said I agree with most of the base stuff, just not all the extra shit on top if it changes the essence and integrity of the game...

Mate I understand what your saying, however the whip for example was something I did at the very start just to get use to the code and familiar with things and never took it seriously it worked so id figure Id poll it anyways there was stuff ive done that I didnt poll either because well I didnt some of it ive scrapped ect. I understand where your coming from with changing not wanting to change the core of the game neither do I. And if I suggest something that may do that then im all ears on why it maybe bad or things and tweaks I can make to make it feel like pkh

However I do stand pretty strong on the tob stuff Ive read a lot of the forums regarding the tob weapons and the rooms and how the droptable should work and spoke to a few devs beforehand if the weps should have specs. However I will acknowledge even that I could of been more open and taken in more feedback from the community and been more upto date with things. I also dont believe I am trying to completely customise the game and turn it into a custom fest dreamscape copy either nor do I believe ive suggested anything on that remote.

However like ive said many times I will work on my communication and put ideas forward more clearer

can you get chopper gunner and attack dogs implemented?
@Nazuths would approve the kill streaks..

Holy shit this is a lot of yap…

Just wanted to throw this out there… new players joining pkhonor don’t need “new custom content” when ALL of our current custom content will already be NEW TO THEM

Ktm drip wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 4:45 am Mate I understand what your saying, however the whip for example was something I did at the very start just to get use to the code and familiar with things and never took it seriously it worked so id figure Id poll it anyways there was stuff ive done that I didnt poll either because well I didnt some of it ive scrapped ect. I understand where your coming from with changing not wanting to change the core of the game neither do I. And if I suggest something that may do that then im all ears on why it maybe bad or things and tweaks I can make to make it feel like pkh

However I do stand pretty strong on the tob stuff Ive read a lot of the forums regarding the tob weapons and the rooms and how the droptable should work and spoke to a few devs beforehand if the weps should have specs. However I will acknowledge even that I could of been more open and taken in more feedback from the community and been more upto date with things. I also dont believe I am trying to completely customise the game and turn it into a custom fest dreamscape copy either nor do I believe ive suggested anything on that remote.

However like ive said many times I will work on my communication and put ideas forward more clearer

Yeah, I get it. I'm not against the TOB weapons necessarily since (I think?) they have them on OSRS anyway, but I'm hoping it's not +10 prayer every 2tic for 10 seconds, cause that's +80 prayer point for example. Like I said, don't necessarily disagree with most of what you want to perhaps work on, just the approach!

Thanks for taking the time to reply so we can understand each other better!

I’m personally against tob weapons having specs, that sounds gay af, the flex is having the cosmetic on the weapon. We already have insane power creep and I think we’re close to the upper limit of what we should be pushing. I’d personally like to see the hundreds of QoL suggestions implemented into the game along with expanding runelite plugins were so desperately needing

Thearlygamer wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 12:10 am I’m personally against tob weapons having specs, that sounds gay af, the flex is having the cosmetic on the weapon. We already have insane power creep and I think we’re close to the upper limit of what we should be pushing. I’d personally like to see the hundreds of QoL suggestions implemented into the game along with expanding runelite plugins were so desperately needing

HMT would be the most end-game content PKH has to offer, not offering a good reward would be? As-well reading through the Specs all seem very useless, sustain specs are never utilized on PKH but rather raw DPS

Most of the time your spec is directed to DWH, Comp cape Specs, not sustain focused specs. Depending how much the % dps increase is on scythe it may be useless.

Tangible wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 3:42 am

Thearlygamer wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 12:10 am I’m personally against tob weapons having specs, that sounds gay af, the flex is having the cosmetic on the weapon. We already have insane power creep and I think we’re close to the upper limit of what we should be pushing. I’d personally like to see the hundreds of QoL suggestions implemented into the game along with expanding runelite plugins were so desperately needing

HMT would be the most end-game content PKH has to offer, not offering a good reward would be? As-well reading through the Specs all seem very useless, sustain specs are never utilized on PKH but rather raw DPS

Most of the time your spec is directed to DWH, Comp cape Specs, not sustain focused specs. Depending how much the % dps increase is on scythe it may be useless.

The specs are “generally” useless in the sense you’d give up the chaos comp x2 spec, fort spec and the dwh spec. There were mixed feelings on them having specs or not however I asked a few devs and they thought they should as well as I. With that I didn’t want to go over bored with them, I gave them small niche things to at least be a little different but still be “sort after”.

From my stand point that is, it was either make them too good or just kinda niece. For now I kinda went with the niece option as the specs don’t really break anything as they do cost 100%. I did however want to do something instead of just more damage as I think that’s a little boring so I kinda went with the prayer healing with a bit of damage and the bleed damage and the healing.

However for any last minute nerfs or buffs Im willing to do a few quick patches too before release. I’d make another post however I think I’ve made enough shit ones for now so I’ll let them sit for now haha