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Silliekill wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:42 pm People see any change an they’ll vote no

Respire1337 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:48 pm

Silliekill wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:42 pm People see any change an they’ll vote no

Ikr? People look at something called "change" or "rework" and they automatically think is a nerf

Trading 50 defence bonuses for double the strength makes torva even more bis offensively and opens up the "bis tank gear" title for the justiciar armor.
A TORVA WITH LOWER DEFENCE AND MORE STRENGTH AND THE SAME OTHER PERKS IS A B U F F

Raj wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:02 pm

Fungamer wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:59 pm I'm not in favor of many nerfs.

Technically these would all be DPS buffs and nerfs to the defensive stats (except Pernix, which would just be completely buffed)

Fungamer wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:59 pm Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe irons will still have to solo nex with WIM.

You are wrong

Uim killerb wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:31 pm i dont like idea of makeing nex "harder" but make the gear worse

So the issue is like, say Nex's special attacks have their max hit of like 60-70 they have on OSRS. In Torva, with your 50 HP boost, this leaves an 80 HP buffer, meaning you can legitimately tank 2 back to back special attacks, AFK with souls for a bit, and be fine. At 99 HP, or even 110, tanking 2 back to back 70's is just not happening. The issue is that people fundamentally do not want the gear to be worse. So the solution is to make Nex hit higher. We can simply not solve the issue, but at that point,why even add mechanics to any bosses at all, just make the game an idle loot spawner and call it a day.

Declan harp wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:38 pm I can't help but feel like this is going to be a buff for al the comp cape users and a nerf for everyone who isn't comped against strong bosses (from new players to players who invested 100's of hours) . The defencive nerfs almost mean nothing because of the dps comp capes can put out (with souls and chaos + the offensive buffs), but for the player who just reached torva (or where torva and other nex items is there go to) these defensive nerfs will hit really hard i think at the strong bosses. For some bosses it's allready really hard for non comps to manage because they get hit so hard.

The players whitout comp can't enjoy the dps buffs if they have to sip 5x more brews every kill (where as the comp capes can because of the chaos+souls comp effect + dps buff).

So end game is being buffed and early to mid game is where the damage happens. Is this really what we need to attract (or keep) new and non comp players for the long run?

yes i know this will be a buff for non comp cape users to at the lower level bosses.

I can be wrong but if so, can someone explain it to me? (sorry the english isn't great)